Are Lao people Thai ?
My friend and I had a heated debate about this . She says that Lao people are the same as Thai people. I beg to differ. What do you think ?
Under the reign of King Rama I in the late 1700s, Thailand covered most areas of present-day Laos. These areas were part of Thailand for the next 100 or so years until France took over. Eventually Laos became independent, but Lao people and Thais are quite similar, and the Thais who live in the Northeast speak almost the same language as Lao people.
My wife, who is Thai, has no interest in going to Laos because she says it’s so much like Thailand, why not just stay in Thailand?
Laos has its own history which has developed independently from Thailand for more than 100 years, and it’s government has been Communist for the last 35 years. So, Lao people definitely have developed their own culture, but it’s SIMILAR to Thai culture, especially NE Thai (Isaan) culture. But not THE SAME. And Lao people are NOT THAI.
I have an Isaan wife. We have been married since May 30, 2005.
Would I ever consider another Isaan woman for my wife, if this marriage failed? Yes. But I would need to be in a position to stay in Thailand — I would not again bring my wife to my homeland to live.
And that proclamation is all I shall be venturing of my relationship in this post.
There was an article in The Nation published December 2, 2006, that generated a lot of discussion, since it was written by a Thai woman:
Don’t blame Isaan wives; women are all the same
by Veena Thoopkrajae
I’ve never thought of dating a farang. I’ve never thought of getting married to a farang.I’ve never thought of staying abroad with a farang husband.
But I’m by no means romantically xenophobic and I do understand why an increasing number of Thai women prefer Westerners to Thai men. It is also easily understood that Thai women are a popular choice for foreigners seeking help from Internet matchmakers.
What I doubt is the research finding by Khon Kaen University which suggests that Isaan women who marry foreigners cause major social changes, as they adopt their husbands’ customs and lifestyles. The research, led by Asst Professor Supawatanakorn Wongtha-nawasu, on the effect of cross-cultural marriages on families in the northeast of Thailand made headlines and caused hot discussions in Internet chat rooms.
She is clearly well-schooled in English. She would have to be, in order to be making her living as an English-language journalist. I believe she is an editor for that publication, in fact.
Veena was reacting to some recent articles of the time, such as this one titled Foreign husbands flock to Thailand’s impoverished Isaan; and an older one from 2004 that had been published in The Nation and was titled Europeans Flocking To Isaan In Search For Wives.
She had a rather short-lived blog called Venus’ Vision that resulted in just 33 posts, all published in the month of December, 2006 — if the Blog Archive column at the right in her blog is correct.
You might enjoy this article that was possibly published in 2007, submitted by a reader of StickmanBangkok.com — it ably voices many of the usual strikes perceived to go against Isaan women (or people there in general):
You Married A Woman From Where?
By Cheerful Farang
I cringe when someone tells me they are married to a woman from Isaan.
I have zero respect for any foreigner who marries a woman from Isaan. The people of Isaan are the trailer trash of Thailand, looked down on by most of the Thai population and for very good reason. Don‘t take my word for it, take that of the Thais.
Most Thais see the people of Isaan as lazy, unskilled, poorly educated farmers whose purpose in life is to do the jobs that nobody else wants to do. Farm work. Factory work. Construction work. Maids. And of course whores.
You can find that sort of opinion extensively in the Web. But as I implied at the outset to this post, I am not in a mood today of making any personal elaborations. So, in what is an April 13, 2012, edit to this post, I am only going to offer these snippets for your further reference concerning Isaan wives:
Ms. Lanee opened the village in the memory of her mother-in-law who had wanted to retire in Isaan, but only if she could among friends. “This isn’t a resort for helping farang men find Thai wives,” said Ms. Lanee. “That is not …
Publish Date: 01/04/2012 16:02
But in Thailand, a migration of foreign or “farang” husbands to live in their Thai wives‘ rural villages in the northeastern provinces (Isaan region) has revealed other sides of cross-cultural marriages. Most foreign husbands …
Publish Date: 04/21/2008 21:04
Travel to Isaan to see Thailand as it should be. Simple life, genuine people and the most unspoiled area of Thailand. Isaan encompasses these cities and more: Ubon Ratchathani, Sisaket, Mukdahan, Udonthani, Khon Kaen, …
Publish Date: 05/08/2007 21:20
Then again, I think men are often attracted to women with more “traditional” values – Isaan girls are likely seen as being better mothers and wives because of the rural or conservative upbringing. Isn’t that really the same in America?
Publish Date: 04/01/2009 8:22
A high percentage of Thai wives come from Thailand’s northeastern province of Isaan. This is one of the poorer regions of the country. Family bonds are very strong, and financial support by western men is a highly prized income source.
Publish Date: 12/12/2011 2:01
Many of their wives and girlfriends were born here in Isaan. Korat_isaangirl Buriram province forms the more visible signpost for Isaan, where a third of the kingdom’s entire population of about 65 million resides. While Korat …
Publish Date: 03/06/2009 20:29
If you are still fairly young and living with your girlfriend or wife in Isaan, then I guess you would want to live close to the town or city. That way you still have access to an active social life. However if he is retired or simply a …
Publish Date: 05/31/2011 0:27
The family doesn’t all have to be in one post, they can be spread out around the wall (as Nit said, “mia noi #1, mia noi#2, mia noi#3, “and so on, referring to minor wives, but they could be “sami nois”, or minor husbands as …
Publish Date: 01/13/2011 19:43
In the old days, bells were attached to the moving parts of looms, so that local bachelors knew that ‘a modest, hardworking, diligent girl’ who might make a good wife, was hard at work. Every village in Surin has at least one …
Publish Date: 12/09/2010 14:00
The amendment proposes the Family and Juvenile Court thoroughly scrutinise such marriages and grant final approval only after it is satisfied victims will be treated as real wives. ….. Swimming with Nong Ja, Isaan Thailand.
Publish Date: 12/16/2009 8:09
I bring humorous stories, notes, and photos to Isaan Style as a teacher living in Isaan. … It is due to come into effect this month but still fall way short of any substance that will actually deter Thai men from beating their wives.
Publish Date: 09/02/2007 6:58
So after clarification I got on the bike, as the bike was speeding away the driver yelled back to his friends “He’s going to see his Isaan wife” So at the end of the road I got off the bike and onto a bus. The fare collecter basically …
Publish Date: 01/18/2007 6:00
Supawatanakorn interviewed 231 Thai wives in Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and Roi Et. She found about 60 per cent had met their future husbands at workplaces or entertainment venues, about 20 per cent via mutual friends and …
Publish Date: 12/23/2006 14:37
Isaan Village Sunrise and Street Market, Thailand. I just blogged about our trip out to Noot’s grandfather’s village. After a night of not a lot of sleep due to the quietness, I was up early as in the village the wives usually start …
Publish Date: 03/28/2009 5:32
Greetings in Thai dialects?
Do you know any Thai dialects or languages from Thailand other than the national language? How do you say greetings in the language? I know that most people understand standard Thai, but I’d like to make a list of the ways to say greetings in different regions.
Standard Thai: Sawatdi krap/ka สวัสดีครับ/ค่ะ
Chiangmai: Sawatdi kap/jao สวัสดีคับ/เจ้า
Isaan: Sumbaidi khap/kha สวัสดีคับ/ค่ะ
Hmong hilltribe: Nyob zoo ย๊อยง
My wife says Sabadee kha and she is from Issan.
Most people in the part of Issan where we stay say pisai when they see you on the street. It means where are you going? And its used as a greeting. Central Thai (what your calling Standard Thai) equivalent would be pinai.
Here is a Issan/Lao phrase book with voice. It should help you with Issan anyway
Why Thai Women marry Foreign Men
Uploaded by NotanIdiot2 on Feb 3, 2008
Thai woman’s fantasy of rich foreign husband (for they believe that no money means no love) meets western mans fantasy of eastern promise and the perfect wife.
What does this make?
A complete disaster, a marriage and a quick divorce and you lose loads of money.
Do not marry these pathetic creatures
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