what is the custumary amount to send a thai fiancee` per month?
You’re going to get some really bad/unhelpful answers to that question my friend. The guys from America will automatically think you met her in a bar, and the girls will just smell foreign female competition (regardless of the fact that Thai women have more femininity than American women could ever dream to have. I have ZERO interest in American girls since being introduced to *real* women).
I say this from experience…be careful. I really wish you’d given more information in the question because I’ve seen PLENTY of fools send money to their “girl friends”…in fact on several occasions I have HELPED the girls write emails/SMS’s to their suckers..I mean farang boyfriends. I really hope in your case that you have a legit relationship, but if you know nothing about the people, the culture, or the language, then there’s really no way you will know. I’ve met so many stupid, lovesick farang on my travels that I can’t help but place you in that category, because frankly the issue of money should already have been sorted out between you and the girl. You should already know her situation and how much money she needs, and if you don’t it’s because you don’t know the girl well enough to be engaged to her.
In answer to your question, if the girl is living in Isaan, then the absolute minimum would be 10,000 baht, suggested maximum would be 18,000 baht. It costs more than you might think to live in Isaan. Of course you neglected to mention where the girl is living. Now keep in mind that *I* would never send a girl money like that, because I am not a fool. If she is a *real* fiancee that you are going back for in a month or two, then my apologies. If you had mentioned the details of 1) how many trips you’ve made to the Kingdom 2) how long you’ve known the girl 3) where you met 4) if you speak Thai 5) your plans, then I could properly judge your knowledge and a correct answer could easily be given.
Only lecturing you here because I see people like you *literally* every day, and I damn sure know what I’m talking about. Western men have become completely sick of these horrible western (American) women and are looking for (and sometimes finding) *real* wonderful women in Asia. Western women basically want to be men, and I can’t imagine EVER wanting to be in a relationship again with an American girl. So I understand exactly where your mind it. But without a TRUE knowledge, understanding, and appreciation for Asian cultures (which are FAR more alien that you can comprehend..which is why I find them fascinating) then you absolutely ARE going to have disappointment. You CAN find a nice, good, asian girl but these things take work. Let me put it this way: if you are sending her money, then she sees you as her ATM. You are her survival strategy.. is that a relationship you consider healthy? Is her economic class so different from yours that to her you are rich? If so, then you have almost nothing in common and your marriage will fail. Keep in mind that this is really no different from how things work in America in the end…except in America they get paid from making you buy them houses, cars, babies, and then raping you in divorce court. All women are the same in that regard.
chok dee krap
Isaan Lawyers have a very clear guide to the legal process that even includes a YouTube video that they obviously posted at one time:
Marriage in Thailand
It’s very easy to get married in Thailand for a foreigner. You probably don’t need help from a law firm. However, should you wish, we can help you.
There are 4 steps:
1) Get an affirmation from your embassy (document A)
2) Make a translation of that affirmation in Thai (document B)
3) Legalized documents A + B
4) Get married at any amphur or Khet in Thailand.
Unfortunately, the link to an English section of the Department of Provincial Administration that they have at the bottom of their short guide is no longer valid, so I have just linked to the main Thai site. I cannot see an option anywhere on the website to have it display in any language but Thai, unfortunately. Thus, wherever http://www.dopa.go.th/English/servi/marry.htm once led must now be out of reach. And complicating matters further for me is the fact that Google Translate is refusing to function for me today.
Wikipedia‘s article on Isan has what sounds to me to be an almost quaint description of the tradition of marriage:
Marriage and courtship in Isan still mainly follows strict tradition, especially in rural areas, and most young women are married by the time they are 20 years old. Many girls, in spite of the legal requirement, marry as young as fourteen to escape poverty, as usually marriage is associated with a dowry paid by the husband to the bride’s family. A dowry will not normally be less than 40,000 Thai baht, and according to the status of the bride and/or her family, can often greatly exceed 300,000 baht. Isan women rarely have boyfriends until they meet the man whom they will eventually marry, and tradition requires that the betrothal is then announced. Younger fiancées will be chaperoned, usually by a female friend, brother or sister while in the company of their future husband. The wedding ceremony usually takes place in the bride’s home and is normally officiated by one or several monks or a respected village elder who has been a monk. Young couples are increasingly registering their marriages at the city hall, which they can do if they are over 17. The extended family system is still very much the traditional social structure in Isan, with newly wed couples often living with in-laws or building a home on the family compound or farmland. It is not unusual however, for many women to remain single until much later. Tradition demands that the youngest or only daughter continues to live at home to take care of her parents. They are then only free to marry when both parents are deceased. There is also the tradition that a woman should ‘marry up’ in status. If the woman is tied to an occupation in a rural area as a farm or business owner, teacher, or similar profession, finding a suitable husband and one who is prepared to relocate is often not easy.
Another website offering directions on the legal steps for marriage is Udon Lawyers in Thailand and their post Getting Married in Isaan:
…When you get married in Thailand the Thai government needs to know that you are single and that you are able to get married. In order to do this you need to go to your embassy and apply for a letter of affirmation. This letter states that you are single and are able to marry a Thai citizen. If you are divorced the embassy would want a copy of your divorce decree before they issue the letter. This letter usually takes 24 hours to obtain so visiting the embassy on a Friday is not a good idea for this letter as you would have to wait until Monday for it.
As you will find on their webpage, they have a number of other related weblinks. I didn’t notice this one advertising their Marriage Services in Thailand, however. Just as the website of Isaan Lawyers said, having a legal service involved in the marriage itself is entirely unnecessary. However, it could be extremely prudent to have yourself protected from the worst of the fallout that will probably result if one’s marriage was to eventually fail. Believe me, there are virtual horror stories.
I am doing a post edit on April 18, 2012, and happened to come across a post from earlier this very month in the Thai Visa Forum asking for some suggestions on how to set up a big party for an already-married German (he) & Thai (she) couple — I guess they originally got married without a Thai celebration, and now he wants to do the traditional ceremony in full. I would love to be able to do the same one day for my own Isaan Thai wife — if I ever manage to break out of debt, and she and I are still together (I have huge doubts on both counts). But if you would like to read about the German’s project, go here: Isaan Party (Wedding).
Here are some referrals to other websites that have published descriptions of Isaan marriages and weddings:
Isaan wedding. Five o’clock in the morning. We suddenly wake up through a massive wave of sound rolling into our bedroom. Of course! Today is the day. Our neighbour girl is marrying. Thai pop music rings merrily from large sound boxes in …
Publish Date: 02/03/2012 23:18
An official told TTR Weekly it was a good opportunity to showcase a traditional wedding ceremony and to add an attraction to encourage tourists to spend time in Isan. The first to kick off is a mass wedding at Bua Daeng lake in …
Publish Date: 02/08/2012 1:59
Getting help is always good and this is where can assist you while in Isaan. Most marriages in Thailand end with an administrative divorce as there are no disputes. Divorce rates in Thailand and in Isaan have increased over the past 4 years.
Publish Date: 11/30/2010 17:16
Thailand. A Isaan Wedding Ceremony. I reported on Joom and Jack’s wedding the other day. These are the pictures of the ceremony. After we had made merit to the monks the groom and his party headed off to the main road …
Publish Date: 12/28/2007 8:10
Isaan Style! Travel to Isaan to see Thailand as it should be. Simple life, genuine people and the most unspoiled area of Thailand. Isaan encompasses these cities and more: Ubon Ratchathani, Sisaket, Mukdahan, Udonthani, Khon Kaen, Roi-Et, Yasothan.. I bring humorous stories, notes, and photos to Isaan Style as a teacher living in ….. 49 Years of Marriage for John and Nancy. Nong Ja and Magha Puja Day Thailand 2012 · Nong Ja and Trakan Tiger Zoo Ubon …
Publish Date: 04/01/2012 5:43
Isaan Style! Travel to Isaan to see Thailand as it should be. Simple life, genuine people and the most unspoiled area of Thailand. Isaan encompasses these cities and more: Ubon Ratchathani, Sisaket, Mukdahan, Udonthani, Khon Kaen, Roi-Et, Yasothan.. I bring humorous stories, notes, and photos to Isaan Style as a teacher living in …. 49 Years of Marriage for John and Nancy. Nong Ja and Magha Puja Day Thailand 2012 · Nong Ja and Trakan Tiger Zoo Ubon …
Publish Date: 04/05/2012 8:42
Looks like I’m heading off to a village wedding in the near future. Got the immediate side of Kim’s family here now plus the husband-to-be, …
Publish Date: 03/12/2011 17:07
It was also an opportunity to raise some money to help with the expenses associated in getting married here in Isaan. As part of the Bai Sii ritual in Tahsang Village for Perk, people made monetary offerings. Small plastic bags …
Publish Date: 01/15/2011 6:43
My first thought upon waking was a panic that I had slept through part of the ceremony. There was music playing, coming from a set of speakers at the bride’s house. Then I checked my clock; it was 5:30. No problem. (I went …
Publish Date: 11/08/2011 5:16
The alarm duly went off at 5.30, to be ignored by both Nit and myself until Nit decided we’d better get up at 6.15 as we had to set off at 7. Checked the cameras were fully charged as his friend, who was the one getting married, …
Publish Date: 03/06/2011 18:02
Marriage Thai and farang in Isaan (Wangsammor) Thailand, july 2010. Video Rating: 5 / 5. Groom Wedding Speeches – Saying the Right Words at the Right Time! Tags: 2010, Isaan, july, Ploenphit, Thai, Traditional, Vincent, …
Publish Date: 08/23/2011 20:00
Isaan Wedding. Isaan is the North East of Thailand, a huge plateau, Thailand’s rice bowl so to speak. It is sun baked, parched, dry and dirty, the soil giving off red dirt which features largely in the local Isaan dialect. Yet it is a …
Publish Date: 01/10/2009 4:48
Isaan wedding Johnny and Meaw … what are you jealous cause your stuck in a marriage with a fat white bread bitch and if you leave her she will take everything, who are the real prostitutes ? jiepper Says: May 30th, 2011 at …
Publish Date: 05/30/2011 13:00
A Christian Wedding In Isaan. Yesterday, Saturday, we went out to Tahsang Village to witness a very rare event here in Isaan – a Christian Wedding. One of Duang’s 93 cousins was getting married in the small Christian church …
Publish Date: 07/17/2010 22:27
Hochzeit in Thailand
Uploaded by thailandissan on Sep 25, 2011
Eine Hochzeitsfeier im Isaan, wo wir eingeladen waren.
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